Ron Gauvin, 60 & Patti Gauvin, 58, Milton, New Hampshire

When Ron Gauvin enters an archery competition, it’s quickly noticed that something special is going on beyond shooting arrows. Despite balance challenges and a paralyzed right arm, Ron manages to get to the line and let fly using a stabilizer bar and a special strap attached to the string that allows him to release using his mouth. Click here to see Ron demonstrate his technique in this brief video clip.

What is more amazing than his performance, though, is the 27-year journey he and his wife and soulmate Patti have taken for his recovery and to become qualified for the 2019 National Senior Games presented by Humana. In fact, this is at its heart a love story, and because Patti also became a competitive archer and qualified in the process, this is a Personal Best profile for both.

Ron and Patti went to the same high school and both participated in track and field, but they never met until a matchmaker put them together when she was 25 and he was 28. Patti had become a nurse, and Ron had gone to work, choosing to pursue archery and a variety of other activities over college. They quickly hit it off, but since Patti had no interest in archery, Ron dropped the sport so they could do more things together.

Five years later, their lives were turned upside down when Ron developed a brain tumor. Through the treatment process Ron lost the use of his right arm, has difficulty speaking, and manages related balance issues. Amazingly, before the diagnosis Patti had decided to specialize in head injury nursing care, so she immediately knew what to do and applied her knowledge to help her husband navigate the health care system and regain as much function as possible.

When Patti showed Ron a picture of a woman using an adaptive device in archery, he immediately determined to find a way to return to his favorite sport. Not only did he succeed, he is delighted that his wife also caught the bug and picked up a bow. Their experience prompted Patti and a partner to write Hope Through the Eyes of Love, a book detailing the Gauvin’s journey to provide advice and encouragement to others facing similar challenges. They connected with the National Brain Tumor Society and have helped with support groups and advocacy. Patti even featured Ron’s case for her master’s thesis and developed a model for living through adversity.

In the following conversation, it becomes clear that Cupid’s arrow did not miss Ron and Patti Gauvin and that they were destined to be brought together to laugh and cry and triumph. The bedrock for their successes is their love for each other and an insatiable love of life. Despite the serious subject, Patti (who speaks for Ron in interviews) tells their story in a positive, entertaining, and in the end, joyful and inspiring manner. Enjoy, and then take their advice to go out and make the best of every day – what we call pursuing your own Personal Best.

 

Thanks for representing both Ron and yourself for this interview, Patti.  

He can’t speak very well. He can answer yes and no and a few words here and there. Sometimes he’ll throw out a one-liner that blows you away, and then other times you can ask his date of birth and he can’t say it. So, I speak for him for things like this.

When we heard about you two, it struck us as a love story as much as an inspiring athlete profile. Take us back and tell us how you two met, and how all this happened.

That was 33 years ago, and it’s kind of an interesting story. I was 25 at the time and had just finished my nursing degree. Ron was 28 and never went to college. After school he got a job at a manufacturing company that made sports equipment like shoulder pads and nets. He was too busy enjoying all the other stuff he was doing to think about college.

Ron and I went to the same high school but never met then. My sister was engaged to a gentleman from a big Greek family, and the mother of this guy was the match maker. Her older son had a friend who was single and she wanted everybody to be happy and married. [Laugh] My sister told her I was available and gave her my number. Ron and I connected on the telephone, and he had such amazing interests. He was an archer. He liked fishing and hunting and scuba diving. And he was very good at everything he did. I was just impressed and thought, “Wow – this guy will get me out of the house to do things.” [Laugh]

We went on a blind date and were talking about all the people we knew in high school, and he said he had been on the track team and did javelin, discus and shot put. I did discus and shotput too, and I vividly remembered seeing two boys back then playing “pass” with the javelin on the other side of the field.

Pass??

You know, one throwing it out and the other trying to catch it as it passed. At the time, I remember thinking “Who are those stupid people out there?” [Laugh] So I asked, “Do you remember Scott? Any chance you were the guy playing pass with the javelin?” He said, “Yeah.” [Both laugh]

It’s clear Ron is a natural athlete. Was archery his best sport?

He was a very good archer. He had gotten fourth place in the national archery championships before we met. I had never done archery before, and I wasn’t at all interested in it. He had an archery shoot the next morning, but he canceled because he wanted to go out with me again. He actually gave it up to marry me.

Ron was diagnosed with his brain tumor in 1991, five years after we married. He was given two to three years to live. But he just keeps living and living and living. [Laugh]

We’ve gone in for a yearly MRI to check out the status of his tumor. His neurosurgeon now says it’s a lower grade tumor. They’ve always said that he had a “good tumor.” He has never been so positive going to his appointments as now. We just know he is going to get good results.

What exactly was his condition and treatment?

It was an astrocytoma of his left temporal lobe that is involved with the functions of his right side. He’s had seven brain surgeries and radiation. Ron actually had to wait for the radiation treatment because it had not been developed yet, and he was one of the first 18 people to get his type of treatment.

Good that it didn’t kill him, but it changed your lives and his abilities.

The initial biopsy paralyzed his right side, but he’s a trooper and recovered his function. About seven years later he lost some functioning permanently. The surgeries tried to reduce the size of the leftover dead tissue from the radiation. The damage in his brain most likely comes from the radiation.

He’s been paralyzed on the right side since 1998 and lost the use of his arm. He can walk but he has some balance issues because of the weakness on that side. When he’s on a flat surface it’s not bad. It’s more difficult when he’s outside on uneven surfaces.

Of all the people in the world for Ron Gauvin to marry, it’s amazing you are a nurse and knew how to care for him and help him get back to doing things again.

It’s even more interesting than that. Before Ron was diagnosed, I changed my path in nursing and specialized in head injury rehab. [Chuckles]

Wow!

Yes. I learned how to work with people with significant brain damage. I’ve had a couple of people come out of a coma in front of me, which is a wild thing to witness. What I learned for caring and rehab was that you don’t do anything for them. You have to wait to coach them and show them how to do things for themselves. People run over to help Ron do things. I say “No, don’t touch him.” Even when he falls down, I just stand there and watch him. [Laugh] And I can’t get him up as easy as he can get himself up. He’ll figure it out and he’ll do it. And he does.

So, you knew exactly how to react and help him rehab.

Oh, my God. I knew what kind of rehab and what kind of doctors to ask for, where it was in the brain, what to expect for damage. It was like “Whaaat?” [Laugh] But me knowing was a double-edged sword. I knew, “Oh crap, this is going to affect his brain” but I was ready and quickly started planning. [Speaks faster like a train of thought] You gotta have this and this and this and this, you’re gonna have rehab, you’re gonna have this, you’re gonna come home and I wanna take care of you and…[Makes garbled noise and laughs] But I’ve been able to manage the healthcare system because of my background.

Ron must be a special patient for you, because you have to be dispassionate to help him. Whatever you did worked – just look at how Ron found a way to shoot arrows using his mouth!

His attitude is what has gotten us through it. He is always willing to try new things and go places. He’s like, “Gung ho, let’s go.”

All it took was me showing him a picture of a someone with an adaptive archery sling on Facebook and he says, “Let’s go, let’s try this out!” It took about two years before he was shooting well, because it took time to find people to help us get it right.

We found an introduction to archery course by Northeast Passage, who does outdoor adaptive sports. I saw a photo of a release mechanism on this woman’s shoulder and we agreed to check it out. Shortly thereafter, we determined that a mouth release would probably be easier for Ron. It’s like you take a dog leash, sew it together and stick it on a bow and go shoot.

He did really well when he tried it. He even got a Robin Hood! What?? [Laugh] We kept going back, and one time the instructor handed me a bow and said, “Here, try this.” Needless to say, I bought my own bow one month later.

That’s great! In the process of helping Ron return to his favorite sport, you found it too.

The first time I was out on the range, I didn’t tell Ron I was going to do it. I was on one end and he was on the other. The look on his face was priceless, he was so excited to see me on the line with a look that said, “Finally, she’s going to understand what it is I love about this.” [Ron shouts “Yes!”]

I can’t tell you how much I’ve learned about Ron’s previous dedication to archery, and how much he loved me to give it up. Now that I’m doing it too, there’s no way I’m giving it up for him! [Laugh]

After learning to shoot, Ron’s next goal was to compete again?

Ron wanted to get back in tournaments, and we went to several different local outdoor and indoor competitions around New Hampshire and Massachusetts. We did our first Senior Games in 2017. It was our first-ever time together in a tournament. I did horribly, I didn’t even know what I was doing. It took awhile to find all of my arrows. But because I was the only barebow archer of my age I got a gold medal and would have qualified for Nationals. Ron did pretty good, but neither of us had shot at those distances before.

Your 2018 qualifying scores were good, and we’re happy you are coming to The Games in Albuquerque.

That is absolutely the next step for Ron. This has really given him a sense of purpose in life now. I started with barebow and last summer I went to recurve. Ron’s doing compound bow. [Click here for explanation of archery types and bows] Both of us have improved, and the way he’s shooting right now I think there will be even more improvement.

Ron has been meeting with E. G. LeBre, a U.S. Para-archery coach, about twice a month to help him perfect the mouth release. Ron would really love to participate in the Paralympics. He has to have a minimum qualifying score, and he did not achieve that last summer. He missed the deadline to make the 2020 team so the next will be in 2024. Ron is convinced he will make it. [Pause and Laugh] Ron just heard me say that. He pumped his chest and said, “Right here!”

E.G. has been tremendous in watching Ron’s process and finding ways for him to adapt, small things like the placement of his thumb on the bow.

Archers are required to walk back and forth to retrieve their own arrows and count score, which Ron can manage. Are there any other adaptive issues?

I found out that Ron is allowed to have an “agent” call his scores since he can’t speak very well. We usually ask an archer he is shooting with to help, and everyone has been wonderful about it. We’re still looking at whether he can use a stool to steady himself.

He does take up a bit more lane than others because he has to have a long stabilizer bar to mount his arrows. Sometimes he shoots alone from the group, or at the end of the line. That’s where we usually go. We don’t want to make a big deal out of it and want to respect other people’s space.

Your experience resulted in a book. How did that come about?

When Ron went in for his last surgery in 2010, I started feeling like I needed to share this story and tell everybody how to manage the experience. I wanted to give people hope and help others put their situation into perspective. A lot of people get so hung up in their prognosis that they forget to live each day to the fullest as we have been doing. The fact he had a brain tumor was not going to define us. We were determined to live our lives and love each other.

We were staying with a friend who knew a woman-Angel Logan-who had co-authored a book. We got the book ready in six months. We wanted to publicize and get it into the right hands. That’s how we got involved with the National Brain Tumor Society. Working with them has given us the opportunity to advocate and encourage others.

We can’t imagine a more fitting athlete couple for a Personal Best feature. Our basic spin is that Personal Best is also an ongoing journey to pursue your best health and well being by staying active.

It’s absolutely an ongoing journey. Ron doesn’t stop. Last week we had snow and what does Ron do? He gets up, puts on his clothes – mind you, with a little help from me with his gloves and hat and putting slip guards on his feet- and off he goes out shoveling snow with one arm.

You know, there are these things called snow blowers you can get.

[Laugh] Well, we do have a snow blower man, but Ron goes out before he comes and gets what he can clear. I pay the guy $20 to do the job so I don’t have to do it, but Ron just has to go out and do his part.

I have these moments where I stand back and see other people watching Ron shoot and they come up to me with tears in their eyes after the match saying things like “Oh my God, I can’t believe he does what he does.” Of course, I was thinking about the equipment problem he was having. [Laugh]

But it makes me think, “OK Patti, stop being frustrated.” We’re going to keep doing this because of the joy it brings him to do what others won’t try, and to feel like one of the guys again with his archery.

 

You obviously provide each other with love and support. your determination and spirit is an inspiration. You guys could have easily just caved in.

[Pause] Joe Biden is often asked how he continues on after the tragedies he’s been through. He said he stole this quote from someone else, but he said, “You need something to do, someone to love, and something to look forward to, to give you some purpose.” We think that’s awesome.

We can’t close this interview without noting how happy and joyful you are. I hear Ron laughing along with you. A positive attitude goes a long way.

Having a sense of humor will get you through a lot of things, and help you understand what’s important in life. I think I was always like that, and Ron, too. He’s always had a good sense of humor and light-heartedness. And he understood my humor. That’s what attracted me to him in the first place.

I come from a very big family of nine and you always had to roll with the punches. I am always trying to keep things light. I tell the others we shoot with that it’s OK to joke with Ron and give him a hard time. You can tell him he’s slow. [Makes exasperated voice] “You want me to pull these arrows for you AGAIN?” [Laugh] I think it’s great for people, especially kids, to be exposed to this. Ron may not be able to talk much, but he’ll let you know what he’s thinking! [Laugh]

Finally, is there any other advice you tell others facing life challenges?

I actually made my master’s thesis on Ron’s story, and it focused on adversity and how you cope with it. I came up with a model of “real.” You have to make it real. You have to be enlightened and learn everything you can about your situation. We never denied that he had a tumor and the challenges that came with it. But you don’t want to waste a day if you only have two years to live.

So, we always did what we could to make the best of it. It’s all about having a positive attitude and living and loving life. 27 years later, things are going well, we are still making the best of every day.

That is now our motto. Make the best of every day!

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Don Wright, 78, Stillwater, Minnesota

Don Wright is literally running for his life.

The Minnesota native enjoyed many successful years as an engineer, attorney and father of three. He ran cross country in high school, but career demands kept him from regular exercise and his weight grew as he approached 60. His brother-in-law and wife were runners who got Don’s wife Ardis involved, and in turn she convinced Don to run a 5K with them. He struggled but finished, and that led to a goal to run a marathon in his home town, which he accomplished within a year.

Two weeks later, in 2003, Don was diagnosed with multiple myeloma, an incurable blood cancer that resides in the bones. He was advised to prepare for only five more years to live. Instead of being devastated, Don decided to set a goal to run the Boston Marathon, and then to run a marathon in every state. His would enjoy traveling the country but also tell everyone that there is always hope, even for cancer patients like him.

After 50 marathons, Don met a public relations professional, who told him he should organize a foundation to make it possible for his message to be spread much wider. The result was eRace Cancer, a campaign to educate patients about advances and innovations in treatments through its social media page and traditional media relations efforts.

With the help of newly-discovered treatments, Don’s myeloma was kept in check, and when the hundred marathon milestone was reached he needed a new item for his bucket list. After the National Senior Games came to the Twin Cities near him in 2015, Don decided he wanted to transition to track running and take his message to a new audience. The plan was to travel to as many qualifying games as he could in 2018 to share his message on the way to competing in Nationals in 2019. The eRace Cancer team generated local publicity at almost every visit to seven different state Senior Games, and that caught our attention.

As the following informative interview shows, Don and wife Ardis are excited they have both qualified and will run in Albuquerque at the 2019 National Senior Games presented by Humana. Their 48-year-old daughter Sarah can’t wait to reach 50 and join them on the track. We are just as excited to have the Wrights as part of the Senior Games family. After all, you can’t spread too much hope around!

Welcome to the Senior Games Movement, Don! Let’s start by asking you to explain what myeloma is.

Most people discover they have multiple myeloma when they break a bone, or more than one-that’s why they call it multiple. Myeloma isn’t in the bones, it’s a blood cancer in the bones throughout your body. A lot of people feel fatigued, but I didn’t have any real symptoms before it was found. Mine was actually found early by accident. I was complaining about a bone pain to my doctor and he ordered a test called protein electrophoresis that is pretty reliable. He said you probably don’t have this, but let’s just check it out. Then I got the call.

 

And so it began.

Yes. I told the doctor my blood tests are always strange because I’m a runner. He replied, “Not like this” and referred me to an oncologist.

I was told myeloma was incurable but not imminent. It would be two to five years before it would take me. So I wasn’t scared at first, it was more like curiosity. You know, let’s get our arms around this. I started running marathons thinking it might help in some way.

The increased activity and fitness must have helped you.

The fact that I’m alive is only partially owing to the fact that I’ve run over 100 marathons and am now competing in Senior Games. It’s more credit to the new medications that have come along because of innovation since I was diagnosed. I was given two to five years, and I’m still going 15 years later.

Right now my cancer is at the lowest level it’s been. I would like people to know that you don’t have to run 100 marathons to be able to have hope if you are a cancer patient. Things are coming along fast, so hang in there! I want to bring a message of hope to others, that’s why I am doing this.

There are two support groups in the Twin Cities, and I go to both of them and they know my story. They are aware better treatments are coming down the pike.

With all of the medical breakthroughs, cancer is no longer an automatic death sentence as it once was. Are there advances in treatment for myeloma?

There is some hope on the horizon that your white blood cells can be trained to actually go after the cancer and get rid of it once and for all, but we won’t know that until patients live on for a few years. People used to have to go through bone marrow stem cell transplants that put them into the hospital for weeks and months, but I’ve never had one. That is increasingly going to happen.

Many of those people who went through that came out no better than before. It’s still not a curable disease at this time. There’s one doctor that said that the cure for myeloma is to live long enough to die of something else. [Laugh]

Many treatments were not even available when I was first diagnosed. What I’m taking now fights the cancer but doesn’t interfere with my ability to run competitive races. My survival is not just a feel-good story, again it’s also a message of hope. That’s what I want to get out there.

Tell us more about the message of hope you are spreading.

Not everyone with cancer can or should run competitive races, but I hope my message of possibilities after a difficult prognosis provides encouragement for anyone battling this disease. We should be excited about maintaining this medical momentum, until we reach a cure.

I want to fight for all patients to have affordable access to the treatments they need. I’m not talking about the cost of these amazing therapeutics. I can’t put a price tag on being able to move on with my life, my family and my work as an attorney. The competitive running symbolizes that.  I am talking about good insurance and manageable copays. That’s what has allowed me to get the treatments I need, and all patients should have the same opportunity.

What is your treatment like now?

I currently go in for an infusion once a month and I’m only down for a day or so afterwards. Besides that, I also take a pill every night for three out of four weeks each month, and that has worked for me for years. I was in a study for that one. The Mayo Clinic is only two hours away and that has helped get me into these new treatments. Mayo is as good as anywhere in the world. So I guess I’m lucky about that.

I was selected for two other studies that didn’t work at all-my bones lit up pretty good. I also was in a study about use of the PET scan. It turns out to be by far the most significant diagnostic tools, and nobody knew that ten years ago.

 

Maybe you’ve also been a good candidate for studies because you got yourself fit and have been a good patient doing whatever was needed. You make it easy for Mayo to say, “Let’s call Don.”

Oh yeah, maybe. I’m a little bit of a celebrity there because of running all the marathons.

People are living longer, and in larger numbers. We wonder whether they are going to keep their bodies healthy and fit, or will they just feel miserable longer or cut their lives short anyway?

That’s really a primary question. My mom lived to age 100, and two years later my dad lived to be 100. That is my goal, and I know how they did it. They did it by staying active. They didn’t run, but they walked all the time. They changed over time to be more healthy, eating well and exercising.

There’s a certain amount of luck involved. Sure, genetics help, but doing the right things probably helped them get to 100.  That’s what Ardis and I are doing now. We eat very well, lots of organics. We can’t tell for sure that eating like that helps with cancer, and we can’t say for sure that going out and running will beat cancer. There are a lot of things that might be helping, we just don’t know where the myeloma comes from. I can think of several possibilities.

 

Better to hedge your bet and do the right things!

You betcha. I may be lucky to have good genes, but I was unlucky to get myeloma. But I’m really lucky that they are working on treatments for myeloma. That’s why I’m alive now.

 

Well, thanks for educating us about the disease. Let’s talk about how your running history started.

When I was in high school I went out for cross country. I did pretty well, and at the beginning was the best on the team since the other guys were not as in good shape as I was. They got into better shape and I became just one of the best. But then I quit in favor of girls. [Laugh] That was probably a poor choice at the time. 

Cross country was all I did for sports before I got on with my life. After my college years at the University of Minnesota I was an engineer for a long time and got into computers and software. I realized after several years that what I was doing was not going to last much longer, and rather than learn a new technology I went to law school. I haven’t practiced law a lot though.

 

When did you take up running again?

Much later. I was busy with my career and raising three kids. It all adds up. So no, I didn’t do much and didn’t think I could run. I tried it when I was about 40 and my knees hurt. I did a lot of walking and stair climbing though.

I started running again at age 61, a year before my diagnosis. I found I did actually have some natural ability at running and decided I would try a marathon. My theory was if you run three miles most days it will keep you healthy, but I wanted to try the distance. I did the Grandma’s Marathon in Duluth, and it was a good one. I wanted to see if I could qualify for the Boston Marathon, even though I didn’t really expect to go. Anyway, my time wasn’t good enough, and two weeks later I found out about the myeloma.

 

What was your motivation to run at that age?

To get stronger, get the fat off of me, and be healthier. I was overweight. My brother-in-law, Pastor Calvin Thoresen, and his wife Blanche had started running, and they got my wife and daughter into it. Then, Ardis got me going. So, I entered a 5K they were all in. I came in all red faced and huffing and puffing and decided I didn’t want to do that anymore. I did keep running, and the next year I trained hard and beat my brother in law’s time in the 5K. But Calvin was the catalyst that got us all moving.

Then, after the diagnosis, I decided I did want to run the Boston Marathon. That would be a big item on my bucket list. I ran in two more marathons and did qualify. One was a downhill marathon in Tucson, which I figured would help. The other was in the Twin Cities, and that one wasn’t so easy.

I ran in Boston in 2004, and it became a family thing. My wife Ardis and our daughter did the half marathon in Tucson while I ran the full one. We liked traveling around to do this, so we picked off the low hanging fruit and started going to marathons close enough to drive to from Minnesota, like Iowa, Wisconsin, North and South Dakota you know. We like the one in Fargo because it was so nice and flat. [Smile] We just kept going.

At what point did it get into your head to start the E-Race Cancer foundation and take it to the next level to spread your message?

We got up to about 50 marathons in 30 states when I met this public relations professional for a major patient advocacy organization. He said he liked my message and could help with my expenses to keep going to share my story with many more people. So it grew from there.

It’s good to have people help you in your quest. We were impressed with the publicity you’ve earned as you visited several of our Games around the country in 2018. Are you surprised with your press success?

We’ve gotten a story on some form of media almost everywhere we have gone. We were on CNN twice, with Dr. Sanjay Gupta in one of them. That was a big surprise for me. Runner’s World did a feature after my 100^th marathon two years ago and ran a follow-up story on my Senior Games tour this year.

Why did you transition from distance running to doing track sprints at Senior Games?

Well, I had finished my bucket list, so I needed to start a new bucket list! I completed 100 marathons and thought, ‘OK, now what do I do?’ I didn’t figure it out for some months, and when the National Senior Games came to Minnesota in 2015, I heard about it and decided “Why don’t I do that now?”

My daughter Sarah who lives with us is 48, a couple of years away from Senior Games. But she now plans to do it. It’s kind of new for Ardis, too. She wasn’t sure about it at first, but realized it’s just on a little track and Sarah could sit and watch. Her first Senior Games was in New York, and she’s qualified in the 200 and 400 and will be in Albuquerque.  I’m looking forward to it. I ran a marathon there and enjoyed the visit.

Since running puts stress on your bones, have any doctors told you to avoid the marathons and track for fear of breaking bones?

It’s a funny question, because every doctor I talked to has encouraged my running because it strengthens your bones. I have one doctor who is not a cancer doctor. She’s half my age and acts like my Grandma. “Take it easy now, Don.” [Laugh]

You want people to do the right things to take care of themselves. Regular physical activity is a big part of that. What do you tell others who think they aren’t as athletic as you and can’t run, let alone race?

The most important thing you can do is walk. The faster, the better, but any speed is good. A mile is nice, two miles is even better. You should do that every day.

Something like “an apple a day” advice?

Walking is more important than an apple. By quite a lot. Dr. Oz would agree.

Speaking of food, how has your diet changed?

My younger son lives in Minneapolis and he is a runner. He and his wife are trying to get us to go on a vegan diet, but we have another plan that is not vegan. We eat a combination of paleo and Mediterranean. We eat high quality food, don’t eat any more sugar than what is in the plants and fruit. We do believe that protein from meat is important.  We also joined Weight Watchers several years ago and we’re still members.

Is there anything you gave up that you miss eating?

It’s been awhile so let me think. [Pause] I used to really like a jelly donut, but I’ve sworn off both the gluten and the sugar in that. I don’t really miss those things, it’s actually more of an inconvenience on others because you have to tell them you can’t eat that loaf of fresh baked bread they made for your visit.

Some people really are reactive to gluten, like my number one son. We don’t test reactive to gluten, but we still think it makes us healthier.

Your stated goal now is to qualify and compete in the National Senior Games in Albuquerque, and to visit as many state games as you could to spread your message of hope. What future goals will you have after that?

I don’t know yet. Maybe I’ll try high jumping. I think I could do OK at that. I know what I’m not going to do – pickleball. We have a really nice running track at the local high school and it has four basketball courts in the middle where they play pickleball. When I get close to where they are playing I pick up my pace a little. [Makes sound] Pa-tick…pa-took…pa-tick…pa-took! [All Laugh]

 

One continuing goal must be to keep spreading your message of hope to others dealing with cancer and advising fitness and health for everyone.

You betcha. I do want to reach many people. But if even one person who feels negative about their life could feel positive, that would be enough for me. If it’s more, so much the better.

What hope do you have for yourself?

There’s a saying somebody had about wanting to die sliding sideways into the grave. Boom! That’s my idea of how life should be lived. [Laugh]

You have looked death in the face, and that usually brings a different perspective on life for people. How has your experience affected you?

I do see life differently now. Every day is a free day. It enabled me to do things I might not have done, like run 100 marathons. I guess having the myeloma made that a reasonable thing to do. Otherwise, why spend the money and the time to do that many? I will tell you that the travel kinda makes up for that. We have been to 50 states since I took this up, and we always allocate a day or two to look around.

I have to say there’s never been a better time in my life than right now. [Smile]